tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6762928.post8173522818131443869..comments2024-01-03T05:23:36.046-08:00Comments on The Citizens: NEW RULEUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger13125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6762928.post-8817693877923383612007-10-04T00:06:00.000-07:002007-10-04T00:06:00.000-07:00Stick this!Stick this!USWesthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07572294996079264655noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6762928.post-17835642211383801242007-10-03T15:13:00.000-07:002007-10-03T15:13:00.000-07:00Down with Bumper Stickers!!!Down with Bumper Stickers!!!The Law Talking Guyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17886791396468512490noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6762928.post-28972325561290476842007-10-02T17:36:00.000-07:002007-10-02T17:36:00.000-07:00I have no problem with bumper stickers as free spe...I have no problem with bumper stickers as free speech. But all talk, no action, that I have a problem with. It is lazy.<BR/><BR/>Let's not confuse noise with action or slogans with thoughtful discussion.USWesthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07572294996079264655noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6762928.post-60660192457636301612007-10-02T08:23:00.000-07:002007-10-02T08:23:00.000-07:00I thought "Bong Hits 4 Jesus" was a juvenile juxta...I thought "Bong Hits 4 Jesus" was a juvenile juxtaposition of something their parents hated (pot) with something they always blathered about as uber-wonderful (Jesus). The "Taser this" remark is actually less clever, demonstrating that it is actually posible to be less clever. But the key to free speech isn't the wisdom of the remarks, but the right to speak in contadiction to the Accepted Truth and Conventional Wisdom. The right to flip the bird to the President is, in my view, near to the heart of American liberty. The bumper sticker, which is the equivalent of "hit and run" free speech, is perfectly in line with a tradition of free speech that has as much to do as stinky-pants cartoons as it does with teaching John Locke. And I do enjoy it. Liberty is, after all, about being free. And if liberty means anything (to quote Justice Brennan) it means the right to be let alone.The Law Talking Guyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17886791396468512490noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6762928.post-77606197908407420792007-09-29T21:25:00.000-07:002007-09-29T21:25:00.000-07:00Everything is just a bumper sticker. That is how a...Everything is just a bumper sticker. That is how all communication in the US is going these days.<BR/><BR/>Street protests have given way to covering the back of your car with slogans.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6762928.post-38170479094324042662007-09-29T14:32:00.000-07:002007-09-29T14:32:00.000-07:00I shake my head at how arguments are made nowadays...I shake my head at how arguments are made nowadays. On one side - f*** Bush! On the other - 9-11! 9-11! Never again! Support the troops!<BR/><BR/>And yet some of these messages score big points. Look at the enduring belief that Iraq and September 11th are related. I just read this in a NY Times article about a new, well-funded conservative advocacy group, "Several of the group’s spots suggested that Iraq, rather than Al Qaeda, was behind the Sept. 11 attacks, even though the independent Sept. 11 commission investigation and other inquiries found no evidence of Iraq’s involvement . . In August, when the organization rolled out [an advertisement in which an Iraq veteran pleads with Congress and the American people not to surrender in Iraq] to two focus groups in Pennsylvania, its upbeat, patriotic message was well received, even causing a few viewers to weep."<BR/><BR/>We are going to see and hear a lot more of this stuff over the next year. None of it is persuasive for either point of view. It is really difficult to stay interested and engaged amid all the inane back-and-forth.The O'Brien's Teamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00851127128535644788noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6762928.post-39328681198129719712007-09-28T17:56:00.000-07:002007-09-28T17:56:00.000-07:00I agree with Dr. S. I thought of the "raise a glas...I agree with Dr. S. I thought of the "raise a glass" thing as well. But still, stupid. But yes, so is Dada. Maybe I am too literal.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6762928.post-37085697347637335182007-09-28T16:55:00.000-07:002007-09-28T16:55:00.000-07:00You truly see no distinction?You truly see no distinction?Dr. Strangelovehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14407042105777411150noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6762928.post-5652576209382812007-09-28T15:33:00.000-07:002007-09-28T15:33:00.000-07:00po-tay-toh, po-TAH-tohpo-tay-toh, po-TAH-tohThe Law Talking Guyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17886791396468512490noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6762928.post-26825013004226116712007-09-28T10:30:00.000-07:002007-09-28T10:30:00.000-07:00For "bong hits" the "Dada" defense works for me. ...For "bong hits" the "Dada" defense works for me. (Although I thought the meaning was not so obscure... something like "raise a glass" for Jesus.) But the "Taser" remark is puerile, not Dada.Dr. Strangelovehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14407042105777411150noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6762928.post-42541948851050715432007-09-27T11:25:00.000-07:002007-09-27T11:25:00.000-07:00My response is: Dada is art.My response is: Dada is art.The Law Talking Guyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17886791396468512490noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6762928.post-86223522346316535742007-09-27T07:56:00.000-07:002007-09-27T07:56:00.000-07:00I agree with USWest's assessment: it's just a bad ...I agree with USWest's assessment: it's just a <B>bad</B> editorial. Unlike the Bong Hits, however, I think the editorial is clearly some form of Bush-bashing... very poorly expressed. The profanity, however, is totally irrelevant to me. To quote D.H. Lawrence's poem "Conundrum":<BR/><BR/>Tell me a word<BR/>that you've often heard<BR/>yet it makes you squint<BR/>if you see it in print! <BR/><BR/>Tell me a thing<BR/>that you've often seen<BR/>yet if put in a book<BR/>makes you turn green!<BR/><BR/>Tell me a thing<BR/>that you often do<BR/>which, described in a story<BR/>shocks you through and through!<BR/><BR/>Tell me what's wrong<BR/>with words or with you<BR/>that you don't mind the thing<BR/>yet the name is taboo.Dr. Strangelovehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14407042105777411150noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6762928.post-26009147565292695312007-09-27T07:46:00.000-07:002007-09-27T07:46:00.000-07:00I seem to recall the nonsensical nature of "Bong H...I seem to recall the nonsensical nature of "Bong Hits for Jesus" was actually one of the reasons the students used it, attempting to push the envelope. It was also cited by the 4 dissenting justices on the Supreme Court as a reason why a reasonable person would not interpret as a pro-drug (or pro-anything) message. The conservatives saw "bong" and that was all she wrote.Dr. Strangelovehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14407042105777411150noreply@blogger.com