tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6762928.post114490518216645461..comments2024-01-03T05:23:36.046-08:00Comments on The Citizens: Guantanamo: Our National ShameUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6762928.post-1145303308676370512006-04-17T12:48:00.000-07:002006-04-17T12:48:00.000-07:00I agree with Bob. I believe that taking a princip...I agree with Bob. I believe that taking a principled, moral stand is what being liberal is all about. It is the Democrats' unwillingness to do so that has cost them credibility. RxR presents a false dichotomy. I do not think the Dems can win in 2006 without openly confronting Bush on his most egregious violations.Dr. Strangelovehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14407042105777411150noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6762928.post-1145157053319834942006-04-15T20:10:00.000-07:002006-04-15T20:10:00.000-07:00I completely disagree with RbR in terms of priorit...I completely disagree with RbR in terms of priorities.<BR/><BR/>I'm not a complete idealist -- I would understand avoiding "open confrontation" over, say, some polarizing issue that boils down to a question of _how_ two sides think we should improve the country, like sunsetting tax cuts.<BR/><BR/>But if it's a question of what this country is _about_, you don't wait around until after the election to say "Oh, and you know what else we're gonna change? We're only going to keep people in jail that we actually have reason to believe did something wrong, and we're actually going to try them to decide if we're right."<BR/><BR/>Never mind that I think that favoring "essential freedoms" and "human rights" are strong political positions. There are some things that (as LTG says) "patriots must speak out against". Regardless of what the majority may think.<BR/><BR/>Grabbing prisoners because it's convenient, "coercing" them because we can, holding them indefinitely without justification or recourse...this is the way of power, of imposing the will of the strong on the weak. It is not the American way. Democrat or Republican. And we shouldn't countenance it until November. Or at all. <BR/><BR/><A></A><A></A>// posted by<A><B> </B></A><A HREF="http://thecitizens.blogspot.com/2006/04/guantanamo-our-national-shame.html#comments" REL="nofollow" TITLE="bob dot wieman at bris dot ac dot uk">Bob</A>Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6762928.post-1144930382401754932006-04-13T05:13:00.000-07:002006-04-13T05:13:00.000-07:00I can only hope that Bush's low approval ratings w...I can only hope that Bush's low approval ratings will allow the Democrats somehow to confront this. However, if it comes to a choice between open confrontation about "Gitmo" and winning the election in 2006 I know what my preference is! First things first. First get a majority in at least one house of Congress then go after The Tyrrant with unbridled fury! <BR/><BR/><A></A><A></A>// posted by<A><B> </B></A><A HREF="http://thecitizens.blogspot.com/" REL="nofollow" TITLE="">Raised By Republicans</A>Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6762928.post-1144905491766595272006-04-12T22:18:00.000-07:002006-04-12T22:18:00.000-07:00You can follow this link to find an amicus curiae ...You can follow this link to find an <A HREF="http://www.scotusblog.com/movabletype/archives/HamdanParliament.pdf" REL="nofollow">amicus curiae brief </A>  filed by over 100 active members of the British Parliament urging the United States not to abandon the ancient principle of habeas corpus. Amazing. Never reported in US media, of course. <BR/><BR/><A></A><A></A>// posted by<A><B> </B></A>LTGAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com